My guest is Oscar Martens, who is a writer based in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada. Oscar is also a good friend of mine whom I’ve known for over 30 years, when I met him in a writing class in Ottawa. He has since published two collections of literary short stories to excellent reviews: The Girl with the Full Figure Is Your Daughter in 2002, and No Call Too Small in 2020. In this second part of my conversation with him, we continue on the same topic, but also discuss the use of conversation in fiction and in film. Please also check out Part 1, the previous episode of the podcast, in which we still talk about conversation, but in broader terms, and introducing some of the concepts referred to in this episode.